Reports of HITS & IDEAS from other people WITHOUT the commercials! ![whistle whistle]()
NUDE ALPHA:New Pheromone Additive: NA + N.PA has been tested by eyeofra, thundr, myself and maybe others. My personal killer mix; beastly. Use strictly for seduction.
I use 1:1 ratio. I mix them together and apply 3 drops (1.5 drops of each). I don't frequent bars anymore, but I do direct/sexual day game. For my situation it's my holy grail combo. I wouldn't discard it for bars/clubs, though.
Think of this combo as Sam Fisher-stealthy, under the radar. Creating damage and destruction only where it has to be done, while the rest of the world is oblivious to your actions. Compared to, say, AV-well AV it's just fckn Rambo.
You will get a few sick in-your-face hits, but the majority will be deep romantic sexual bonding in 1-1 interaction where you will be the only one knowing the wreck you've made on your target.
Youngest girl seduced : 23 y/o
Oldest: 46 y/o
Reaction :head over heels.
Yes, I've got it to work multiple times, otherwise it wouldn't be my holy grail.
Keep in mind I roll with a Mode One mentality/approach. I am totally honest about what I am up to, even if that means just having a ONS. Common reactions include an extreme desire to please (wild sex and breakfast in bed) and all sorts of affectionate acts.
I suggest making a small batch of this mix and give it a whirl. You got nothing to lose. (CHAOTIC)
CORE:TABOO: Went to a family party last new year's eve. There were some guests there, employees of some of my relatives. I got touched and boobed no fewer than a dozen times. There was this girl (mid-20's) who made it a habit to pass by me wherever I am and graze her boobs on my back. lol
I was wearing 2 sprays Core and 2 sprays Taboo.
EVOLVE:LOVEBOAT:TABOO:XIST: added Evolve and Taboo to the Loveboat + Xist. Dear God, it was amazing one whiff and hooked! (MALICIOUSINTENT)
L2K:B-NOL:XIST: 2 sprays L2K v. 1, 1 spray Xist from the big bottle, 25 mcg Beta Androstenol has been nothing short of amazing for me! (DARK LORD)
LOVE BOAT:TABOO:XIST: Xist+LB+Taboo is the real deal, easy lay ... tested twice, same result.
2 sprays of Xist lower neck, 2 sprays of Love Boat upper neck, and 2 sprays of Taboo side of the neck gets me alot of kino and IOI's. Women seem to want to touch, hug and fondle me a lot. lol Even one of the friends of a girl I've been having fun with that has always given me the cold shoulder, gave me a huge hug.
Hmm do i dare to test this at work, yes i do, and will try it the next few days Big Grin Alot of women in this office building, so if you don't hear from me within a week or 2, come save me from whatever sex dungeon they got me in
I don't really do any PUA stuff, i know of a lot of the tricks, but it works better for me just being social, fun and outgoing. There is to many guy's reading PUA stuff and trying to implement it, more fun to go natural and if a PUA try to approach my table i usually just put them aside.
The Xist, Taboo and LB combo just gives you that extra edge; but I was surprised by how strongly it effected the wide range of women on Saturday. It got the best effect sitting next to them, and the longer they are in the cloud the better. When your next to them, it's not that long a reach for them to start fondling you. hehe (JOJJE)
AQUA VITAE:BLISS:SCENT OF EROS: I'm not much of a mixer, and love standalones, but I used 6" Scent of Eros, 4"Aqua Vitae and 2 spray Bliss one day going shopping and it was the most hits I've gotten in a single day! Heads turning, respect, women looking over at me with intrigue, some even staring! This happened the whole entire time I was out. Such a nice flow! (V-NICE)
TABOO:XIST: Probably somebody reported this combo already (I don't fancy reading all pages of this thread) but for me 2 sprays xist + 2 sprays taboo yields great results. I'm at this very moment commuting with this combo and got reactions from women as young as 16 up to women around my age (44)
It seems not to be too intimidating as I'm receiving lots of smiles even from the younger ones. (RJ5555)
EROX:IMPI RED:New Pheromone Additive: I just had 3 hot 21-22 year olds approach and open me in a club on Saturday. I am 39 YO. The hottest of the group called me sexy when she approached. I used 1 spray Impi red, 1 drop New Pheromone Additive and couple sprays of Erox like you used Kimba and they like None very much. (FrankJaeger 39-Y-O)
CORE:IMPRINT:SXD-9: So I went shopping with one of my girlfriend and her friends this weekend. For fun, I put on 2 pumps of SXD-9 on my neck, one spray of Imprint to the back of the neck, and 2 shots of Core to my chest. Her friend tells me I look "awesome" and wants to know all about my workout routine. I then find out we go to the same gym, I just never noticed before.
I just started using Core and I noticed it kind of turns me into a "funny asshole" type, where Imprint just makes me feel drowsy or dizzy.
We head to the mall and later on I give this girl a compliment on a ring she's wearing, and she puts out her hand for a handshake. I shake her hand and she says, "We're friends now." OK, that's very nice, but then she starts stroking my hand and says, "It's OK, she's not looking." WHAAAAT? I was a little taken aback by this. This is a little more than friendly at this point. I thought she was really hot and her body language was off the charts with me all day. She even put my girl down some when she was looking at something in the store and they're supposed to be good friends. She said she thought my girlfriend was "boring". It was a bit nuts and I couldn't stop thinking about all this.
They are both Asians in their 30's. (RANDY SALVAGE)
DOMINATION:XS119A (PHERO BOMB): I could describe it as a 'moving bomb'
I'm 43 yrs old.
1 drop of Domination oil on each side of the neck (total 2 drops), then touching the application points with my wrists.
1 spray of XS119A near the domination application points on each side of the neck (2 sprays total) (not layering them).
1 spray of XS119A on the wrist where I had touched the Domination oil, and then lightly rubbing my wrists together so the Domination oil and the XS119A were mixed/layered.
After 10 minutes, 1 spray of Tom Ford's Grey Vetiver on top of each application point.
I walked in a Bar where 2 friends (males) were waiting for me. The place was packed so I had to go through the crowd to reach my friends. I just noticed that everybody was trying to make space for me to walk through! They were looking at me like if I was a VIP! I even noticed 2 ladies asking the Bar owner (I know the lady for many years) about who I was.
When I met my friends, the lady owner came straight away to us, she made a comment that something was different on me on a good way. She was talkative, smiling and offered us drinks for free.
I noticed that ladies were passing very close to me, smiling and some of them 'accidentally' touching me with their bodies as they were dancing or walking through. On the other side men were keeping a distance from me not being so happy about my presence and the girls reactions. Even my friends were less talkative than other times but enjoyed the fact that so many ladies were surrounding us.
To make sure that the effects were from me, I walked out to make a phone call....... Again, everybody was trying to make space for me to walk through!! I felt like a VIP! Coming back, one of my friends was smiling and told me that a lady who was dancing behind us asked them If I walked away! I could see her smiling and talking to her friends but they did not want to come closer to us. She was disappointed, especially when 2 male friends joined their party. After a while they left the place but on the way out the lady came towards me, smiled and said 'have a good night'!!!!
I don't know if it was the Domination or the 'Bomb' effect, so I'll try to test them again.
Still I think that I have fallen in love with Evolve. (PANICOS 43-Y-O)
--- I have tried exactly the same procedure as I described above, but instead of Domination XS I used Evolve XS oil ...... (+1 spray of Orion P6 super on my clothes).
This time I noticed that everybody, instead of opening the pathway for me they all wanted to come closer to me!!!! My friends were more talkative & girls who wanted to buy drinks they were trying to touch me with their bodies.
Initially I felt a bit of aggression when I finished the procedure and left home, but in about 20 minutes this turned into a kind of 'euphoria' (PANICOS 43-Y-O)
New Pheromone Additive:TABOO: Well, things changed and I didn't wind up going to the social event. Instead I had an "acquaintance" over to the house. Let's just say that shenanigans were more or less assumed.
I will say, though, that she spent a lot of time twisting her hair and acting very subservient to me. More so than the last time we went out. I was wearing Taboo and N.PA. She text this morning saying it was the most turned on she's ever been.
One spray of Taboo on one side of the neck, one drop of N.PA on the other side. Also used one dab of Polo Blue on each side as a cover.
Keep in mind, though, that shenanigans were a foregone conclusion before she even arrived. My only observation was that she seemed more turned on than usual.
She's 41, I'm 45. (OTTER 45-Y-O)
A314:NA:Turn Up The Heat: My staple around my girlfriend has become:
NA (1 drop)
A314 rev25 (Social bonding edition)
1-2 spray of Turn up the heat
I've used this combo and every single time I end up turning her on more and more and seem to get her more invested in me. NA has her talking about the future (and I'm serious about this one too, but being 23 this may be very very difficult to do when the time comes). Turn Up The Heat turns her on, and a314 provides that additional, but more blatant status kick.
I've tried other combos, but this seems to be the most consistent of all. (PHERTEST)
DIRTY PRIMITIVE:CORE: Alright gentleman I have been using a combo that seems to hit my GF like a ton of bricks. Its pretty heavy, but 4 drops of DP and 3 sprays of Core. My cover is Abercrombie Fierce since it blends so beautifully with Core's fury scent.
My GF has been a bit "dry" toward me the last couple weeks. A lot has to do with me though. Ive been distant with everything I have going on in my life so I planned a little dinner at my place. I wore the combo I mentioned above. My GF comes in and immediately she hugs me and kisses me passionately. Again guys keep in mind she's been very "dry" with me, so that was out of the norm. We sit down for dinner and she literally talked about how sexy I was almost the entire time. She said, "God your tattoos, your face, you are just so fucking sexy!" Haha. I was loving this. She didn't stay over but we did get dirty and as usual I made it worth her time.
Two nights later I set up a brunch date with her. Wore this combo again. This time all that was different was how much Abercrombie I was wearing. I OD with it. I had on like 12 sprays hahaha. We are eating and again my GF is talking very highly of me. One comment I remember was she said "You know, I will NEVER find another guy like you" "You are such an amazing person" Of course I counter with something light as I don't ever let a woman put me on a pedestal. We went shopping afterward and she just felt like buying me everything. Everything I touched she wanted to buy it for me.
As for self effects Initially I felt really confident and calm. It put me in a positive mood. I will say that about 6 hours later I turned into a clown. Making jokes, dancing randomly and just making my GF laugh her ass off.
I honestly did not notice anything that was going on around me since I really was focused on my GF. Not sure if it hit anyone else, but this mix was awesome. I might wear it to school next week for the heck of it. (WHATUPBRAH)
THUNDR BOMB: N2 sprays of New Impi Red, 1 drop of Nude Alpha (one drop), 3 drops of X22
I get women crushy and falling all over me with this one. It's a great combo that hits amazingly in the summer. (KIMBA)
IMPRINT: (BY THE MAKER OF IMPRINT, THUNDR)
Correct. 2 sample sprays equals roughly one spray from a full size nozzle.
In everything I make I try to dial in at 2 sprays (from full size atomizer) as the recommended app. I feel that building it at 2 sprays is the optimal application of Pheromones and fixes. That's not to say it's not effective at one or 3 sprays, it just where I feel is the optimal balance. Individual sweet spot testing is still helpful here though.
4 sampler sprays should reach the recommended app.
Imprint takes a bit longer to heat up than core does. Core smashes them almost immediately. Imprint can sometimes take a half hour or more to really begin to shine. This is bc imprint is working on a different level than core and is fixed a bit heavier. I wanted imprint cloud to stay closer to the body instead of the massive diffusion core has.
What makes Imprint so unique and special?
Where imprint really shines is during isolation moves. In this I mean either 'one on one' dates or when isolating a female from her set.
My best advice on use of the product is realize it's not core and it's not going to crush her as soon as it hits her snout. It will increase comfort levels but it also has a cumulative effect the longer a target is subjected to it. More marinating equals more effect.
On date nights and one on ones, try to incorporate as many external stimulus as possible. That was one of the features I wanted in the final version that was so effective in the earlier formulations. Sight, smells, tastes, touching, hearing.. stimulate these centers as positively and often as possible. Think of it as you pointing out a good memory and let imprint scribe it deep into her brain. Be very creative here and develop some cool ass memories for her.
Advanced use of the product allows for memory linking where a positive stimuli is vocalized then a physical act is performed to 'link' the memory with the physicality.
Par example. Brush against her hand. "Oh my your hands are really soft." Take her hand in yours.
Caress her hand and make mention another unrelated positive stimulus. "The food here smells amazing. I would be a fat ass if I worked here."
Small chuckle from her but what you are doing is linking. This works without imprint but it becomes uber effective whilst using the product. There's more than just Pheromones in imprint.
See what just happened in this mini example?
Now the memory has been etched and linked to the caressing of the hand. So now in a different environment, on a different day even, the soft slow hand caress can lead her (even if just momentarily) down positive memory lane. Watch her while you are caressing her hand, you can actually see what's happening. Surreal.
Conveniently you are just working off things you have already implanted. This is powerful juju and not to be used carelessly or to harm.
Sex with imprint on your chest and a bit of Androstenone. Annihilate her vagina and she will dream of your shit for days to come. Sometimes weeks and months. True story. This method builds stalkers. The base imprint prototype formula was one of my hardest hitting mixes and I used it often with old Np.a
Reinforce positive perceptions. Comment on random things and vocalize them. I did quite a bit of research during the formation of imprint. Women remember how you make them feel and that was the primary goal in the development of the formula. As with any phero mix, you have to learn to work the product so the product works for you.
Add 2 sprays of core to imprint and you now have one of the most effective signatures I have ever felt seen made. (THUNDR)
THE MAGIC LaCROY BUILD-UP ROUTINE WITH NEW PHEROMONE ADDICTIVE: Decided to try the build with a deviation or two to see what would happen.
This is my first build, so no baseline other than the reports. I am trying for a Thunder/20 Franc/Pheroman hybrid based on their posts with an add on or two. Researchers have to cite their sources...
- 2 Dabs of New Pheromone Additive (new dropper bottle top in) on the back of the ear.
- I put mine on only at night so that it can age while i sleep. Dabs added only before bed time.
- I shower (morning...don't touch the app points) and then spray cologne underneath my armpits (not sure if this violates the deo rule, but it is an alcohol based cologne).
- alcohol wipe under the arms every 6 hours or so...liquid alcohol vice gel
- No other mones used for 1 week prior to starting the build and no other mones used during the build.
- Probiotics because I read that it helps people with odor issues based on diet....I think Thundr mentioned eating things with Chlorophyll...So I didn't think it would hurt.
Self Effects: I feel great! Very powerful. When I sit, my legs are opened wider than normal...Much wider than normal. My speech is slower and my voice seems deeper (others have made comments). I'm standing up straighter and physically taking up more space. This is kind of what I imagined Domination or A314 would do...I've tried neither product. I sleep like a rock. I feel good with no brain fog. I'm not overly energetic (very mellow, but confident) like with other blends, but I'm not tired either. I felt very happy after the first day.
My smell doesn't seem too bad. When the alcohol/cologne dies down it does smell like a light musky urine type odor.
Effects on others: People have been treating me like a king...This was among a group of people that know me and have been in other clouds. They seemed to like me more and it wasn't in a sexual way either. Just a deeper level of closeness. There have been dominance challenges from other men, but they are very subtle. A guy squeezing my hand hard when we shook hands. I calmly asked him if everything was ok and he quickly apologized. Guys standing between me and their ladies when I'm on the other side of the room. No apparent intimidation (which is what I was going for) from ladies (younger ones -25 and younger seem quiet until I speak to them), so far (this is day 3). I have seen pupil dilation from ladies (even up to 60 years old) and the 30+ ladies will talk to me without me engaging them first.
No effect on the home front except for the comments on my stronger smell and my voice, etc. Maybe some giddiness.
One major hit (after day 1) that really surprised me. While shopping a lady approached me with a question about a product....I found it strange because an employee was right next to her, but I told her my thoughts. She got in my personal space and then aggressively opened up her coat and lifted her breasts while looking down at them....All while talking to me about this product. While she had slightly larger pupils when talking to me, it wasn't the DIH that I've seen with other products...Yet, she still reacted very aggressively toward me and it was clear that she was interested. She was in her late 30's...But while I didn't expect that response, I assumed that if it did come, the person would have DIH.
Second, third, and fourth major hits involved discounts (employee discounts when i don't work at any of these places) at several stores...when I never asked for a discount. With very open and excited gesturing cashiers. I watched how other customers were handled and they did not get offered discounts (one person behind me in line asked for one and they said employees only or they get in trouble...all female cashiers). Smiles and glances galore....I have noticed that when a lady is with her man she will keep her head pointed in one direction and then glance over quickly with her eyes.
Last point..I know it has been bantered back and forth that mones only impact kids after puberty....I have seen dilated pupils in small children. They look at me with fascination and curiosity...I have seen this with other products too.
Summary: I like the self effects. It appears to be hitting people, but only certain people are bold enough to respond boldly. After one person gave me a discount, I asked them (on their break in the food court) to rate me on a scale of 1 to 10 after some minor chit chat and they said 6 (I personally believe I'm a 9, but everyone has an opinion)...I did expect them to say a higher number....They said this even though their pupils were dilated (almost DIH) and after they gave me a discount that I didn't qualify for.
If you have New Pheromone Additive, the build up is a worthwhile project.
I believe Thundr's quote after 3 days is "Shit gets real".
That it does. Let me try and put things in to perspective:
1. Why do total strangers (ladies) ask for a hug after talking about random topics? Have seen this with other blends with people I know already, but not from strangers.
2. A 32 year old AA women steering the conversation in a sexual manner after only a few minutes of idle chit chat. Something like this, but not exact
Me: I feel like eating some chicken today.
H: Do you prefer the legs or breast?
Me: I will probably order both. I'm really hungry.
H: You know that I don't shave my legs in winter time unless I have a good reason, but I do trim my bikini area so things don't get out of control.
Me: I'm not sure if I want corn on the cob or mashed potatoes.
H: You do know what that corn looks like?
Me: What?
H: smiles and says, you know. It looks like a "D".
Me: That doesn't sound tasty to me.
H: Speak for yourself.
Legs crossed, rubbing thighs, looking very intensely into my eyes.
Topics are getting pushed that way and it seems like they are testing me to see if I will push things in that direction.
If you are scared, then say you are scared. This escalates things quickly and people will put you in scenarios very fast. If you are not in a position to "execute", avoid the build up. I admit I was curious to play with matches, but this is a blow torch with gasoline.
Ladies between 30 and 42 are saying hello and starting conversations when I am out and about.
Guys (only 4...already knew them) seem ok, but the cat is starting to pee on things. He doesn't normally do that.
It is smoother than I thought it would be. The major hits come out of no where.
I have also seen ladies (2 in an elevator) fold their arms and look away. Pupils dilated, but they didn't speak. I smiled and told each one to have a good day. Again, I am really surprised that I feel this mellow with all of this Androstenone on. (ZZZZZZZZZ)
PHEROMAX: Pheromax is some good shit! 2 sprays max for me, 3 sprays is OD land. my close friend's wife couldn't stop playing with her hair. remember people women like to play with their hair,even without mones. it's natural for them.but with mones the hair play increase to the point "uncontrollable." her face look so horny when talking to me. the look in her eyes say that I wanna suck your cock so bad, and I want your D inside my love tunnel right now. she also grabbed my hand (she want my flesh bad). she only pay attention to me, no one else. asked me to sit next to her. said that me and her look like a nice couple. it was EXTREMELY overt and blatant while her husband sitting next to her. yup, you heard me! the dude was next to her, but my mones cloud was irresistible.
p.s. she's a traditional Asian girl. it was just crazy. i learned that Asian girls are horny just like any other race, it's just that they got suppressed by the conservative Asian cultures.to keep feelings inside and suppress lust is part of Asian cultures. but if they know you and feel comfortable around,they will reveal their lustful side.let's face it. we're all human. (LEON333)
The difference between Xist + Love Boat + SOB AND Xist + Love Boat + Taboo + Evolve:
Okay gents. Two excellent combinations. Top for sure. Best HITS ever. Now, what separates these two top combinations for me?
The SOB combo is FAR more sexual, and the lady, when it hits, has the utmost urge to sleep with you. Crazy arousal. SOB also has some male respect. Men respect you and obey you slightly. Xist and Loveboat add comfort with SOB. Women get sexually flirty. It isn't as playful. It is deep sexual undertones. This can be far TOO heavy. SOB's polarizing aspect is AMPLIFIED on an 11 with this. Some girls will just hate you. But, as the age barometer goes up. As in with SOB LESS women will hate you, but the ones that do are far more open about it, as in they trust their gut more than being socially acceptable. Good or bad, this helps you get laid.
With Evolve and Taboo, the mix takes a different turn. It is a Deer in the headlights mix. Yes, that is right. It provides DEEP stares from women, and it short circuits them. It is a Deer in the headlights hit. Women who can process your signal often call the wearer sexy, looking super good, and such. It hits deep when it does. Its more flirty and far easier to give off a boyfriend vibe and appeal to women. This is far easier to steer and manipulate the situation with women to suit you.
Conclusions: SOB is easier to get laid, Taboo and Evolve are far easier to get a long term relationship or take your time seducing.
Both have different efficacy based on game. The Taboo and Evolve is FAR easier for guys with bad game to have a good night with. (KIMBA 22-Y-O)
CONNECTION OR INSTANT HONESTY IN PLACE OF ANDROSTADIENONE: There is a mix which I use to bypass the need for Androstadienone. It's very simple. 1 drop of Desire Me. 1 spray Connections, every 4 - 6 hours.
I add it to Ascend without cops, Api and AV. 'Relaxes' them, without messing yourself up. (INCONCEIVABLEZEN)

NUDE ALPHA:New Pheromone Additive: NA + N.PA has been tested by eyeofra, thundr, myself and maybe others. My personal killer mix; beastly. Use strictly for seduction.
I use 1:1 ratio. I mix them together and apply 3 drops (1.5 drops of each). I don't frequent bars anymore, but I do direct/sexual day game. For my situation it's my holy grail combo. I wouldn't discard it for bars/clubs, though.
Think of this combo as Sam Fisher-stealthy, under the radar. Creating damage and destruction only where it has to be done, while the rest of the world is oblivious to your actions. Compared to, say, AV-well AV it's just fckn Rambo.
You will get a few sick in-your-face hits, but the majority will be deep romantic sexual bonding in 1-1 interaction where you will be the only one knowing the wreck you've made on your target.
Youngest girl seduced : 23 y/o
Oldest: 46 y/o
Reaction :head over heels.
Yes, I've got it to work multiple times, otherwise it wouldn't be my holy grail.
Keep in mind I roll with a Mode One mentality/approach. I am totally honest about what I am up to, even if that means just having a ONS. Common reactions include an extreme desire to please (wild sex and breakfast in bed) and all sorts of affectionate acts.
I suggest making a small batch of this mix and give it a whirl. You got nothing to lose. (CHAOTIC)
CORE:TABOO: Went to a family party last new year's eve. There were some guests there, employees of some of my relatives. I got touched and boobed no fewer than a dozen times. There was this girl (mid-20's) who made it a habit to pass by me wherever I am and graze her boobs on my back. lol
I was wearing 2 sprays Core and 2 sprays Taboo.
EVOLVE:LOVEBOAT:TABOO:XIST: added Evolve and Taboo to the Loveboat + Xist. Dear God, it was amazing one whiff and hooked! (MALICIOUSINTENT)
L2K:B-NOL:XIST: 2 sprays L2K v. 1, 1 spray Xist from the big bottle, 25 mcg Beta Androstenol has been nothing short of amazing for me! (DARK LORD)
LOVE BOAT:TABOO:XIST: Xist+LB+Taboo is the real deal, easy lay ... tested twice, same result.
2 sprays of Xist lower neck, 2 sprays of Love Boat upper neck, and 2 sprays of Taboo side of the neck gets me alot of kino and IOI's. Women seem to want to touch, hug and fondle me a lot. lol Even one of the friends of a girl I've been having fun with that has always given me the cold shoulder, gave me a huge hug.
Hmm do i dare to test this at work, yes i do, and will try it the next few days Big Grin Alot of women in this office building, so if you don't hear from me within a week or 2, come save me from whatever sex dungeon they got me in
I don't really do any PUA stuff, i know of a lot of the tricks, but it works better for me just being social, fun and outgoing. There is to many guy's reading PUA stuff and trying to implement it, more fun to go natural and if a PUA try to approach my table i usually just put them aside.
The Xist, Taboo and LB combo just gives you that extra edge; but I was surprised by how strongly it effected the wide range of women on Saturday. It got the best effect sitting next to them, and the longer they are in the cloud the better. When your next to them, it's not that long a reach for them to start fondling you. hehe (JOJJE)
AQUA VITAE:BLISS:SCENT OF EROS: I'm not much of a mixer, and love standalones, but I used 6" Scent of Eros, 4"Aqua Vitae and 2 spray Bliss one day going shopping and it was the most hits I've gotten in a single day! Heads turning, respect, women looking over at me with intrigue, some even staring! This happened the whole entire time I was out. Such a nice flow! (V-NICE)
TABOO:XIST: Probably somebody reported this combo already (I don't fancy reading all pages of this thread) but for me 2 sprays xist + 2 sprays taboo yields great results. I'm at this very moment commuting with this combo and got reactions from women as young as 16 up to women around my age (44)
It seems not to be too intimidating as I'm receiving lots of smiles even from the younger ones. (RJ5555)
EROX:IMPI RED:New Pheromone Additive: I just had 3 hot 21-22 year olds approach and open me in a club on Saturday. I am 39 YO. The hottest of the group called me sexy when she approached. I used 1 spray Impi red, 1 drop New Pheromone Additive and couple sprays of Erox like you used Kimba and they like None very much. (FrankJaeger 39-Y-O)
CORE:IMPRINT:SXD-9: So I went shopping with one of my girlfriend and her friends this weekend. For fun, I put on 2 pumps of SXD-9 on my neck, one spray of Imprint to the back of the neck, and 2 shots of Core to my chest. Her friend tells me I look "awesome" and wants to know all about my workout routine. I then find out we go to the same gym, I just never noticed before.
I just started using Core and I noticed it kind of turns me into a "funny asshole" type, where Imprint just makes me feel drowsy or dizzy.
We head to the mall and later on I give this girl a compliment on a ring she's wearing, and she puts out her hand for a handshake. I shake her hand and she says, "We're friends now." OK, that's very nice, but then she starts stroking my hand and says, "It's OK, she's not looking." WHAAAAT? I was a little taken aback by this. This is a little more than friendly at this point. I thought she was really hot and her body language was off the charts with me all day. She even put my girl down some when she was looking at something in the store and they're supposed to be good friends. She said she thought my girlfriend was "boring". It was a bit nuts and I couldn't stop thinking about all this.
They are both Asians in their 30's. (RANDY SALVAGE)
DOMINATION:XS119A (PHERO BOMB): I could describe it as a 'moving bomb'
I'm 43 yrs old.
1 drop of Domination oil on each side of the neck (total 2 drops), then touching the application points with my wrists.
1 spray of XS119A near the domination application points on each side of the neck (2 sprays total) (not layering them).
1 spray of XS119A on the wrist where I had touched the Domination oil, and then lightly rubbing my wrists together so the Domination oil and the XS119A were mixed/layered.
After 10 minutes, 1 spray of Tom Ford's Grey Vetiver on top of each application point.
I walked in a Bar where 2 friends (males) were waiting for me. The place was packed so I had to go through the crowd to reach my friends. I just noticed that everybody was trying to make space for me to walk through! They were looking at me like if I was a VIP! I even noticed 2 ladies asking the Bar owner (I know the lady for many years) about who I was.
When I met my friends, the lady owner came straight away to us, she made a comment that something was different on me on a good way. She was talkative, smiling and offered us drinks for free.
I noticed that ladies were passing very close to me, smiling and some of them 'accidentally' touching me with their bodies as they were dancing or walking through. On the other side men were keeping a distance from me not being so happy about my presence and the girls reactions. Even my friends were less talkative than other times but enjoyed the fact that so many ladies were surrounding us.
To make sure that the effects were from me, I walked out to make a phone call....... Again, everybody was trying to make space for me to walk through!! I felt like a VIP! Coming back, one of my friends was smiling and told me that a lady who was dancing behind us asked them If I walked away! I could see her smiling and talking to her friends but they did not want to come closer to us. She was disappointed, especially when 2 male friends joined their party. After a while they left the place but on the way out the lady came towards me, smiled and said 'have a good night'!!!!
I don't know if it was the Domination or the 'Bomb' effect, so I'll try to test them again.
Still I think that I have fallen in love with Evolve. (PANICOS 43-Y-O)
--- I have tried exactly the same procedure as I described above, but instead of Domination XS I used Evolve XS oil ...... (+1 spray of Orion P6 super on my clothes).
This time I noticed that everybody, instead of opening the pathway for me they all wanted to come closer to me!!!! My friends were more talkative & girls who wanted to buy drinks they were trying to touch me with their bodies.
Initially I felt a bit of aggression when I finished the procedure and left home, but in about 20 minutes this turned into a kind of 'euphoria' (PANICOS 43-Y-O)
New Pheromone Additive:TABOO: Well, things changed and I didn't wind up going to the social event. Instead I had an "acquaintance" over to the house. Let's just say that shenanigans were more or less assumed.
I will say, though, that she spent a lot of time twisting her hair and acting very subservient to me. More so than the last time we went out. I was wearing Taboo and N.PA. She text this morning saying it was the most turned on she's ever been.
One spray of Taboo on one side of the neck, one drop of N.PA on the other side. Also used one dab of Polo Blue on each side as a cover.
Keep in mind, though, that shenanigans were a foregone conclusion before she even arrived. My only observation was that she seemed more turned on than usual.
She's 41, I'm 45. (OTTER 45-Y-O)
A314:NA:Turn Up The Heat: My staple around my girlfriend has become:
NA (1 drop)
A314 rev25 (Social bonding edition)
1-2 spray of Turn up the heat
I've used this combo and every single time I end up turning her on more and more and seem to get her more invested in me. NA has her talking about the future (and I'm serious about this one too, but being 23 this may be very very difficult to do when the time comes). Turn Up The Heat turns her on, and a314 provides that additional, but more blatant status kick.
I've tried other combos, but this seems to be the most consistent of all. (PHERTEST)
DIRTY PRIMITIVE:CORE: Alright gentleman I have been using a combo that seems to hit my GF like a ton of bricks. Its pretty heavy, but 4 drops of DP and 3 sprays of Core. My cover is Abercrombie Fierce since it blends so beautifully with Core's fury scent.
My GF has been a bit "dry" toward me the last couple weeks. A lot has to do with me though. Ive been distant with everything I have going on in my life so I planned a little dinner at my place. I wore the combo I mentioned above. My GF comes in and immediately she hugs me and kisses me passionately. Again guys keep in mind she's been very "dry" with me, so that was out of the norm. We sit down for dinner and she literally talked about how sexy I was almost the entire time. She said, "God your tattoos, your face, you are just so fucking sexy!" Haha. I was loving this. She didn't stay over but we did get dirty and as usual I made it worth her time.
Two nights later I set up a brunch date with her. Wore this combo again. This time all that was different was how much Abercrombie I was wearing. I OD with it. I had on like 12 sprays hahaha. We are eating and again my GF is talking very highly of me. One comment I remember was she said "You know, I will NEVER find another guy like you" "You are such an amazing person" Of course I counter with something light as I don't ever let a woman put me on a pedestal. We went shopping afterward and she just felt like buying me everything. Everything I touched she wanted to buy it for me.
As for self effects Initially I felt really confident and calm. It put me in a positive mood. I will say that about 6 hours later I turned into a clown. Making jokes, dancing randomly and just making my GF laugh her ass off.
I honestly did not notice anything that was going on around me since I really was focused on my GF. Not sure if it hit anyone else, but this mix was awesome. I might wear it to school next week for the heck of it. (WHATUPBRAH)
THUNDR BOMB: N2 sprays of New Impi Red, 1 drop of Nude Alpha (one drop), 3 drops of X22
I get women crushy and falling all over me with this one. It's a great combo that hits amazingly in the summer. (KIMBA)
IMPRINT: (BY THE MAKER OF IMPRINT, THUNDR)
Correct. 2 sample sprays equals roughly one spray from a full size nozzle.
In everything I make I try to dial in at 2 sprays (from full size atomizer) as the recommended app. I feel that building it at 2 sprays is the optimal application of Pheromones and fixes. That's not to say it's not effective at one or 3 sprays, it just where I feel is the optimal balance. Individual sweet spot testing is still helpful here though.
4 sampler sprays should reach the recommended app.
Imprint takes a bit longer to heat up than core does. Core smashes them almost immediately. Imprint can sometimes take a half hour or more to really begin to shine. This is bc imprint is working on a different level than core and is fixed a bit heavier. I wanted imprint cloud to stay closer to the body instead of the massive diffusion core has.
What makes Imprint so unique and special?
Where imprint really shines is during isolation moves. In this I mean either 'one on one' dates or when isolating a female from her set.
My best advice on use of the product is realize it's not core and it's not going to crush her as soon as it hits her snout. It will increase comfort levels but it also has a cumulative effect the longer a target is subjected to it. More marinating equals more effect.
On date nights and one on ones, try to incorporate as many external stimulus as possible. That was one of the features I wanted in the final version that was so effective in the earlier formulations. Sight, smells, tastes, touching, hearing.. stimulate these centers as positively and often as possible. Think of it as you pointing out a good memory and let imprint scribe it deep into her brain. Be very creative here and develop some cool ass memories for her.
Advanced use of the product allows for memory linking where a positive stimuli is vocalized then a physical act is performed to 'link' the memory with the physicality.
Par example. Brush against her hand. "Oh my your hands are really soft." Take her hand in yours.
Caress her hand and make mention another unrelated positive stimulus. "The food here smells amazing. I would be a fat ass if I worked here."
Small chuckle from her but what you are doing is linking. This works without imprint but it becomes uber effective whilst using the product. There's more than just Pheromones in imprint.
See what just happened in this mini example?
Now the memory has been etched and linked to the caressing of the hand. So now in a different environment, on a different day even, the soft slow hand caress can lead her (even if just momentarily) down positive memory lane. Watch her while you are caressing her hand, you can actually see what's happening. Surreal.
Conveniently you are just working off things you have already implanted. This is powerful juju and not to be used carelessly or to harm.
Sex with imprint on your chest and a bit of Androstenone. Annihilate her vagina and she will dream of your shit for days to come. Sometimes weeks and months. True story. This method builds stalkers. The base imprint prototype formula was one of my hardest hitting mixes and I used it often with old Np.a
Reinforce positive perceptions. Comment on random things and vocalize them. I did quite a bit of research during the formation of imprint. Women remember how you make them feel and that was the primary goal in the development of the formula. As with any phero mix, you have to learn to work the product so the product works for you.
Add 2 sprays of core to imprint and you now have one of the most effective signatures I have ever felt seen made. (THUNDR)
THE MAGIC LaCROY BUILD-UP ROUTINE WITH NEW PHEROMONE ADDICTIVE: Decided to try the build with a deviation or two to see what would happen.
This is my first build, so no baseline other than the reports. I am trying for a Thunder/20 Franc/Pheroman hybrid based on their posts with an add on or two. Researchers have to cite their sources...
- 2 Dabs of New Pheromone Additive (new dropper bottle top in) on the back of the ear.
- I put mine on only at night so that it can age while i sleep. Dabs added only before bed time.
- I shower (morning...don't touch the app points) and then spray cologne underneath my armpits (not sure if this violates the deo rule, but it is an alcohol based cologne).
- alcohol wipe under the arms every 6 hours or so...liquid alcohol vice gel
- No other mones used for 1 week prior to starting the build and no other mones used during the build.
- Probiotics because I read that it helps people with odor issues based on diet....I think Thundr mentioned eating things with Chlorophyll...So I didn't think it would hurt.
Self Effects: I feel great! Very powerful. When I sit, my legs are opened wider than normal...Much wider than normal. My speech is slower and my voice seems deeper (others have made comments). I'm standing up straighter and physically taking up more space. This is kind of what I imagined Domination or A314 would do...I've tried neither product. I sleep like a rock. I feel good with no brain fog. I'm not overly energetic (very mellow, but confident) like with other blends, but I'm not tired either. I felt very happy after the first day.
My smell doesn't seem too bad. When the alcohol/cologne dies down it does smell like a light musky urine type odor.
Effects on others: People have been treating me like a king...This was among a group of people that know me and have been in other clouds. They seemed to like me more and it wasn't in a sexual way either. Just a deeper level of closeness. There have been dominance challenges from other men, but they are very subtle. A guy squeezing my hand hard when we shook hands. I calmly asked him if everything was ok and he quickly apologized. Guys standing between me and their ladies when I'm on the other side of the room. No apparent intimidation (which is what I was going for) from ladies (younger ones -25 and younger seem quiet until I speak to them), so far (this is day 3). I have seen pupil dilation from ladies (even up to 60 years old) and the 30+ ladies will talk to me without me engaging them first.
No effect on the home front except for the comments on my stronger smell and my voice, etc. Maybe some giddiness.
One major hit (after day 1) that really surprised me. While shopping a lady approached me with a question about a product....I found it strange because an employee was right next to her, but I told her my thoughts. She got in my personal space and then aggressively opened up her coat and lifted her breasts while looking down at them....All while talking to me about this product. While she had slightly larger pupils when talking to me, it wasn't the DIH that I've seen with other products...Yet, she still reacted very aggressively toward me and it was clear that she was interested. She was in her late 30's...But while I didn't expect that response, I assumed that if it did come, the person would have DIH.
Second, third, and fourth major hits involved discounts (employee discounts when i don't work at any of these places) at several stores...when I never asked for a discount. With very open and excited gesturing cashiers. I watched how other customers were handled and they did not get offered discounts (one person behind me in line asked for one and they said employees only or they get in trouble...all female cashiers). Smiles and glances galore....I have noticed that when a lady is with her man she will keep her head pointed in one direction and then glance over quickly with her eyes.
Last point..I know it has been bantered back and forth that mones only impact kids after puberty....I have seen dilated pupils in small children. They look at me with fascination and curiosity...I have seen this with other products too.
Summary: I like the self effects. It appears to be hitting people, but only certain people are bold enough to respond boldly. After one person gave me a discount, I asked them (on their break in the food court) to rate me on a scale of 1 to 10 after some minor chit chat and they said 6 (I personally believe I'm a 9, but everyone has an opinion)...I did expect them to say a higher number....They said this even though their pupils were dilated (almost DIH) and after they gave me a discount that I didn't qualify for.
If you have New Pheromone Additive, the build up is a worthwhile project.
I believe Thundr's quote after 3 days is "Shit gets real".
That it does. Let me try and put things in to perspective:
1. Why do total strangers (ladies) ask for a hug after talking about random topics? Have seen this with other blends with people I know already, but not from strangers.
2. A 32 year old AA women steering the conversation in a sexual manner after only a few minutes of idle chit chat. Something like this, but not exact
Me: I feel like eating some chicken today.
H: Do you prefer the legs or breast?
Me: I will probably order both. I'm really hungry.
H: You know that I don't shave my legs in winter time unless I have a good reason, but I do trim my bikini area so things don't get out of control.
Me: I'm not sure if I want corn on the cob or mashed potatoes.
H: You do know what that corn looks like?
Me: What?
H: smiles and says, you know. It looks like a "D".
Me: That doesn't sound tasty to me.
H: Speak for yourself.
Legs crossed, rubbing thighs, looking very intensely into my eyes.
Topics are getting pushed that way and it seems like they are testing me to see if I will push things in that direction.
If you are scared, then say you are scared. This escalates things quickly and people will put you in scenarios very fast. If you are not in a position to "execute", avoid the build up. I admit I was curious to play with matches, but this is a blow torch with gasoline.
Ladies between 30 and 42 are saying hello and starting conversations when I am out and about.
Guys (only 4...already knew them) seem ok, but the cat is starting to pee on things. He doesn't normally do that.
It is smoother than I thought it would be. The major hits come out of no where.
I have also seen ladies (2 in an elevator) fold their arms and look away. Pupils dilated, but they didn't speak. I smiled and told each one to have a good day. Again, I am really surprised that I feel this mellow with all of this Androstenone on. (ZZZZZZZZZ)
PHEROMAX: Pheromax is some good shit! 2 sprays max for me, 3 sprays is OD land. my close friend's wife couldn't stop playing with her hair. remember people women like to play with their hair,even without mones. it's natural for them.but with mones the hair play increase to the point "uncontrollable." her face look so horny when talking to me. the look in her eyes say that I wanna suck your cock so bad, and I want your D inside my love tunnel right now. she also grabbed my hand (she want my flesh bad). she only pay attention to me, no one else. asked me to sit next to her. said that me and her look like a nice couple. it was EXTREMELY overt and blatant while her husband sitting next to her. yup, you heard me! the dude was next to her, but my mones cloud was irresistible.
p.s. she's a traditional Asian girl. it was just crazy. i learned that Asian girls are horny just like any other race, it's just that they got suppressed by the conservative Asian cultures.to keep feelings inside and suppress lust is part of Asian cultures. but if they know you and feel comfortable around,they will reveal their lustful side.let's face it. we're all human. (LEON333)
The difference between Xist + Love Boat + SOB AND Xist + Love Boat + Taboo + Evolve:
Okay gents. Two excellent combinations. Top for sure. Best HITS ever. Now, what separates these two top combinations for me?
The SOB combo is FAR more sexual, and the lady, when it hits, has the utmost urge to sleep with you. Crazy arousal. SOB also has some male respect. Men respect you and obey you slightly. Xist and Loveboat add comfort with SOB. Women get sexually flirty. It isn't as playful. It is deep sexual undertones. This can be far TOO heavy. SOB's polarizing aspect is AMPLIFIED on an 11 with this. Some girls will just hate you. But, as the age barometer goes up. As in with SOB LESS women will hate you, but the ones that do are far more open about it, as in they trust their gut more than being socially acceptable. Good or bad, this helps you get laid.
With Evolve and Taboo, the mix takes a different turn. It is a Deer in the headlights mix. Yes, that is right. It provides DEEP stares from women, and it short circuits them. It is a Deer in the headlights hit. Women who can process your signal often call the wearer sexy, looking super good, and such. It hits deep when it does. Its more flirty and far easier to give off a boyfriend vibe and appeal to women. This is far easier to steer and manipulate the situation with women to suit you.
Conclusions: SOB is easier to get laid, Taboo and Evolve are far easier to get a long term relationship or take your time seducing.
Both have different efficacy based on game. The Taboo and Evolve is FAR easier for guys with bad game to have a good night with. (KIMBA 22-Y-O)
CONNECTION OR INSTANT HONESTY IN PLACE OF ANDROSTADIENONE: There is a mix which I use to bypass the need for Androstadienone. It's very simple. 1 drop of Desire Me. 1 spray Connections, every 4 - 6 hours.
I add it to Ascend without cops, Api and AV. 'Relaxes' them, without messing yourself up. (INCONCEIVABLEZEN)